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James Collier
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James Collier
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 Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 20:27:27
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No one want to enter into the debate with me?
Does no one want to voice their opinion on this issue? Dietetics is about movoing forward as a profession and this is a very crucial issue...
JAMES COLLIER BSc (Hons) RNutr
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yorkshirechef
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sportdiet
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Posted - 08 Mar 2010 : 14:49:56
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Hi James
my feeling is we need a re think - although as profesion we have never discouraged red meat etc . My feeling is that eggs meat etc are not the culprits any way - it is all the junk.
I saw that doctor - does he actually know what crap is in marg and low fat spreads? |
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James Collier
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James Collier
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Posted - 09 Mar 2010 : 05:03:20
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Originally posted by sportdiet
Hi James
my feeling is we need a re think - although as profesion we have never discouraged red meat etc . My feeling is that eggs meat etc are not the culprits any way - it is all the junk.
I saw that doctor - does he actually know what crap is in marg and low fat spreads?
Yes, we do need to rethink and the message needs to be changed. Like you say, it's all the junk.
Shouldn't the professsions be acting swiftly on this? Or does the industry of health claims have too much of a grasp over food policy?
As professionals, what can we do?
JAMES COLLIER BSc (Hons) RNutr
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morgan
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 16:24:09
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Hi James,
I can't argue with you because I've never agreed with the sat fat mantra in the first place. It's good to see you guys taking notice. I have to agree about the junk in marg. Also processed vegetable oils. People are often surprised when I say I ditched marg & veg oil in favour of butter, olive oil, cocunut oil & lard and eat 2 eggs most days!
However, I still think that one needs to be cautiuos about food from animals. It needs to come from a good source because (animal) fat can dissolve so many enviromental toxicants: PCBs, Dioxin, pesticides etc.
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morgan
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Posted - 15 Apr 2010 : 02:18:44
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James,
On further refection. Can anyone practising evidence-based nutrition make that claim if they ignore convincing evidence?
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Jasbeet
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Posted - 27 Aug 2010 : 21:55:47
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To put my two pence worth in...
I think the mainstream government advice has been detrimental to people's eating habits.
When friends and relatives say to me "I eat no fat! Last night I had just vegetables and rice in a jar sauce [full of sugar, but 0 grams of fat] - there was no fat in it, we never eat eggs!! So why is my cholesterol so high and I'm pre-diabetic??"
People have listened to the advice of eating lots of high fibre carbohydrate and avoidance of fats and thought if they take this to extreme lengths it will work even more and they will wake up tomorrow with the body of a 20 yr old.
I know of so many people who must be protein and Essential fatty acid and vitamin D deficient because they do what they think they are being told.
Or some ppl find the advice unattainable, perhaps becuase it is not natural, and somewhat out of balance to try to cut out a food group such as fat, and therefore make food an issue, a stressor, a functional problematic area of their lives over which thier control seems to be declining, becuase of government and media pressures.
It would be amazing if all the eatwell pyramids vanished, and instead were pictures of people cooking fresh fish, vegetables, and enjoying a tasty a family dinner, and then going outside for a kick about on the football pitch.
But instead, the pyramid I see where I work has a huge bottom layer of baguette, potato and rice! I feel sleepy just thinking about it ;P
I don't quite know what the answer is, but I know that things aren't right the way they are now with government advice. |
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James Collier
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Posted - 28 Aug 2010 : 21:20:16
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^^^ I actually think that's quite a good post. Like you, I don't know the answer, but I don't see it where it is now.
Back to basics IMO
JAMES COLLIER BSc (Hons) RNutr
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Should we still be advising against sat fats?
