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angela
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Posted - 30 Jul 2004 :  12:27:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi, was just wondering if anyone has read "you are what you eat" by Dr Gillian Mckeith and if so what do you think about the those supplements she recommends?

Thanks!

James Collier
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Posted - 30 Jul 2004 :  12:59:31  Show Profile  Visit James Collier's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Angela

I havenot read the book but am aware of some of her work. Alot of what she suggests is unfounded, even to the point of being 'made up' and IMO she abuses her credibility

Alot of her advice is not based on science.

I would also be interested to read other HPs thoughts...

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Chris Flatt
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Posted - 30 Jul 2004 :  13:29:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Havn't read the book, and have only seen snippets of the TV show... my impression generally was that i would love to see the people that she advises in a year or 2 time... anyone that works with real-live clients will tell you that trying to get them to make even the smallest changes such as reducing fat intake, cutting out sugar etc is extreemley difficult... so getting a take-away loving, non-exercising, junk food addict to completely change to greens, wholegrains, etc is a bit of a tall order...they may indeed incoporate the advice whilst on the 'show', but see if they are still as keen 6 months down the line!

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anne
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Posted - 02 Aug 2004 :  10:30:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

If you look on the quackwath website...you will see "Dr" Mckeith's qualification/s listed there......havent read the book as I value my money but have seen the show.
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lisa
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Posted - 03 Aug 2004 :  12:38:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have looked over her website - I would recommend this for a laugh! I found her "love bar" which "nourishes love organs" most hilarious. The recipes are disgusting - "creamy" brocolli soup which is basically brocolli and sprouts in water.

I too would love to see the participants in a few months time. Think things would have changed a lot. I remember one lady saying she would follow the diet but not so rigidly. Sure she will bring in some fatty foods, then surely a choccie bar won't hurt and so on!!

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JP
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Posted - 03 Aug 2004 :  13:42:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I'm so pleased to know that I'm not the only one "uncomfortable" with Dr Diet's methods used on the show. I was particularly concerned when, in an episode a few weeks ago, red meat and dairy came flashing up on the screen in big letters with a big red cross struck through them! What kind of message is this giving to the general public??

I also found Gillian McKeith's website and there's no indication of her background or qualifications. Anne - I'd be interested in that web link for quackwatch which you mentioned?

I sincerely hope that this is not how all nutritionists are going to be perceived from now on. Very worrying indeed.

Anyway, don't forget to tune in tonight... if you can stomach it!

Julia

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James Collier
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Posted - 04 Aug 2004 :  11:04:05  Show Profile  Visit James Collier's Homepage  Reply with Quote
what's her website link please?

I'm with you all folks - she has complete unfounded credibility due to the letters 'Dr' in front of her name and the fact that she's a clever lady who makes things sound plausible.

Anyone can do this - I wrote something on one of my other forums (busier) 2 years ago purly as an experiment - it was complete bull poo, and the first 10 or so people who read it said 'wow James, great info thanks' - they beleived it! it wasnt until one of the sharper members noticed I was having a joke. I then posted clearly that was on a wind up as an expermiment. (I'll dig out the piece for you)

My point: It is easy to abuse one's credibility and get the lay public beleiving you.

My only question to her would be does she sincerely beleive what she says or does she know she's making it up to improve her profile

There's plenty of other reputable nutrition experts on the telly these days - why the need for crackpots too?
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JP
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Posted - 04 Aug 2004 :  13:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hear hear!

www.drgillianmckeith.com - have fun browsing...



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anne
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Posted - 04 Aug 2004 :  14:52:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi . I found the quackwatch stuff when browsing and looking up Gillian McKeith's qualifications on Dogpile.

The address is a long one - sorry -
www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/Nonrecorg/aanc.html

hopefully that will get you to the page....and her info is near the bottom. If not, I suppose searching through quackwatch may find it.

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James Collier
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Posted - 04 Aug 2004 :  18:46:21  Show Profile  Visit James Collier's Homepage  Reply with Quote
thanks for the links guys!

It is now clear - she is on a very clever marketing scam, increase her profile, become a well known name, sell more products, become rich!

you got to admit though guys, it is tempting....we could all do it!
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James Collier
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Posted - 04 Aug 2004 :  19:12:11  Show Profile  Visit James Collier's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Came across this:
quote:
'Expert's' dodgy degree

TELEVISION health expert Gillian McKeith is today accused of exaggerating her professional qualifications and misleading the public.

The 45-year-old host of hit diet show You Are What You Eat uses the title Doctor Gillian McKeith and describes herself as the "world's top nutritionist".

But The Sun can reveal she has NO medical background.

She holds a "worthless" PhD in holistic nutrition gained via a postal course at a backwater US college.

Last night Channel 4 chiefs Doctorate? Yes
DEGREES in a variety of subjects — including those in which McKeith was said to have qualified — can easily be bought on the internet.

An MSc in Nutrition from top US college Belford University costs less than £250.

stood by McKeith who has earned a fortune advising stars like Demi Moore and selling health products.

Her book from the series is a No1 bestseller.

But as they vowed to continue with a second series, health experts dismissed her theories and warned her "advice" could put fans at risk.

Dr Edzard Ernst, professor of complimentary medicine at Exeter University, blasted McKeith - often seen "examining" patients and performing medical procedures like colonic irrigation.

He said: "In the show I saw there was a total lack of real medical issues. Her theories on food-combining are perfect rubbish."

Amanda Wynne, senior dietician at the British Dietetic Association, said: "We're concerned. Some of the things she says just aren't true."



Bestseller ... No1 book



Management for Scots-born McKeith, who lives in Hampstead, North London, claim she has a PhD and MSc from the American College of Nutrition, among other qualifications.

In fact, her primary nutrition-based PhD is from Alabama's Clayton College of Natural Health.

A spokesman admitted: "This PhD is not comparable to those from other colleges."

However, the General Medical Council said ANYONE with a PhD can call themselves a doctor - because the title is not protected.

McKeith last night said her management team had supplied an incorrect list of qualifications.

She said: "I think I know who sent this. There was a Spanish guy on work assignment over summer, it must have been him."

She expressed surprise anyone thought she was a medical doctor, adding: "I've never claimed to be."

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Chris Flatt
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Posted - 05 Aug 2004 :  08:58:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've always fancied being called a professor...does anyone know where i can 'buy' one?!
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padfoot
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Posted - 02 Sep 2004 :  11:01:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi... the sad thing is, my mum and dad have just bought her book! it hasn't arrived yet but in a few years they'll have me! why do they need some fake telling them how to eat? what makes it worse is that their best friend is a chief dietitian, if they wanted any actual advice they could ask her! sorry... i'm just ranting on...

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James Collier
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Posted - 02 Sep 2004 :  12:50:08  Show Profile  Visit James Collier's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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hi... the sad thing is, my mum and dad have just bought her book! it hasn't arrived yet but in a few years they'll have me! why do they need some fake telling them how to eat? what makes it worse is that their best friend is a chief dietitian, if they wanted any actual advice they could ask her! sorry... i'm just ranting on...




It's credibility mate. She's on the telly and sounds like she really knows her ****. I could do it too, but I'd rather give evidence-based advice

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genevabarry
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Posted - 04 Jan 2006 :  23:56:15  Show Profile  Send genevabarry a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
As a Weight Watchers Leader I was always appalled with what she was saying esp with no qualifications and I'm sure with no idea of what its like to suffer a weight problem. The one thing I do agree with is the title of her programme, book, pr circus ... You Are What You Eat. If you enjoy eating what you're eating ... YOU'RE HAPPY!!!

YAWYE is a fad. Weight loss and management should be seen as a long term solution to a current problem. With the right management (and a book alone cannot help or support you) this can be achieved. This is not the way to life long happiness or contentment. There is no major sense of achievement by reaching goals with no-one to cheer you on. There's no-one to pick you up and help you along when things seem to be going off the rails a bit.

My advice ... don't do it. Get proper advice and help, but remember you're not alone. So many of us have been there, done that and bought the XXXL t-shirt. And we're the people that can help (I know, I lost 5 stone with support and help).

TTFN

Allan
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AnnaFromCanada
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  21:29:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Though she makes some good points (most of which are common knowledge) i.e. Lots of fruits, vegetables, fibre and lean meat, poultry and fish are good for you...there's a lot of not so sensible claims...

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillian_McKeith

also:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,,2011095,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1285600,00.html

I personally would take her advice with a grain of salt, trust your instincts and reasearch anything that seems off ot you. Still, I may try some recipes (for free http://www.drgillianmckeith.com/nutrition-recipes.php)

Final note, I saw a few requests for links and information, I suggest Google, all the links I posted where found on the first page.
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